NewsNation and the New York Post reported that Lue Elizondo, a former Defense Department intelligence officer, claims that “the United States has been involved in the recovery of items, vehicles of unknown origin that come neither from our country nor from any other foreign country of which we are aware are .” He claims that one of two spacecraft in the Department of Defense’s possession is from the 1947 Roswell, New Mexico crash site.
In his interview with NewsNation, Elizondo stated, “We as a nation are interested not only in the vehicles themselves, but also in the occupants of these vehicles; to include biological specimens… We are not alone… The US government has been aware of that fact for decades.”
Elizondo added that “the American people have a right to know about the presence of UAPs in our airspace.” Elizondo echoed these themes on Joe Rogan’s podcast, which was released the same day as his new book, Imminent.”
The mysterious appearance of unknown objects in the sky was publicly admitted by US government officials. Reports on unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAPs) by Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines led to the creation of a new office at the Department of Defense in 2022 called the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO).
The official statement from AARO reads: “To date, AARO has discovered no verifiable information to support claims that any programs involving the possession or reverse engineering of extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or currently exist.” The key word in this statement is ‘alien’.
There is a world where both Elizondo and AARO are sincere in their reports. In that world, the UAPs are unknown to US national intelligence agencies, but they are man-made. The retrieval and reverse engineering programs that Elizondo and David Grusch testified about do indeed exist. These programs study crash sites of vehicles produced by enemy countries.


In that case, the medical harm caused by encounters with UAPs could be related to man-made technologies similar to the Havana syndrome, and any biological entities recovered from the crash sites would be terrestrial in nature. The concentration of UAPs near nuclear or military assets is a natural byproduct of espionage.
Some of the advanced technologies displayed by UAPs are unknown to American companies and are labeled as anomalous just to cover up the confusion about their terrestrial origins. In that world, the US’s apparent vulnerability to national security threats explains why the Defense Department would withhold disclosure of related details. Any public recognition of the unknown terrestrial origins of UAPs would serve the military interests of enemy nations that produced them.
The fundamental question is whether we live in a world where both Lue Elizondo and AARO are sincere. Yes, there are UAPs in the air and there are programs for recovering and reverse engineering debris from crash sites. But while admitting their existence, the Department of Defense and the Director of National Intelligence prefer not to make public the classified information about the unknown terrestrial origins of some of these remarkable objects. They prefer to keep the public confused. Even AARO admitted that they do not have enough data to clarify the nature of a few percent of all UAPs.
To find out if we live in a world where both Elizondo and AARO are sincere, scientists must collect their own high-quality scientific data. Neither the air nor our oceans are classified. The Galileo project is currently operating a new observatory at Harvard University and building two other observatories to continuously monitor the entire sky for any UAPs.
So far we have identified a million objects in the sky and are currently analyzing them. A year ago, I led a Galileo Project expedition to the Pacific Ocean, retrieving anomalous material from the crash site of the interstellar meteor IM1, which was identified by the US Space Command as originating outside the solar system.
We are planning a second expedition within a year to find large chunks of this anomalous interstellar object, which moved faster than 95% of the stars near the Sun and was made of material stronger than solar system iron meteorites. In 2025, the Rubin Observatory in Chile will begin surveying the southern sky with a 3.2 gigapixel camera. The Galileo Project research team is currently developing the software that could discover new UAPs and interstellar objects in the unprecedented data stream over the next decade.
Quality scientific data is key to clarifying whether UAPs are extraterrestrial.
Shortly after the news reports, I was asked in a TV interview on NewsNation, “Is Elizondo a credible whistleblower?” I hope to know in the coming years. As a scientist, I can only respond to direct evidence of scientific quality, which I hope to gather with the Galileo project.
The other question was, “Can humanity handle the truth?” I consider this question irrelevant, because it is always useful to know the truth about our cosmic environment. Humanity has gone through similar learning experiences before. When Nicolaus Copernicus and Galileo Galilei showed scientific evidence that we are not at the center of the universe, the Church responded by declaring Copernicus’ book De Revolutionibus a banned book until the 19th century and placing Galileo under house arrest. This delaying tactic to protect the public from scientific evidence did not work. In 1992, the Vatican admitted that Galileo was right. This was 23 years after man landed on the moon.
Earlier this year I gave a public lecture in Torun, Poland, the birthplace of Nicolaus Copernicus. The title of my lecture was: “The next Copernican revolution.” A day before this event, I attended the Munich Security Conference through a Q&A forum on the search for extraterrestrial technological civilizations, led by the brilliant Rolf Dobelli, founder of WORLD SPIRITS. The sequential schedule of these two events signifies the two facets of UAPs, represented by Elizondo and AARO. I do my best to resolve the tension between them with the best scientific tools at my disposal.