A retired U.S. intelligence officer, now a UFO whistleblower, claims that the government possesses remains of various non-human biological “entities” recovered from downed spacecraft.
David Grusch, an Air Force veteran who previously served at the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency (NGA) and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), made the striking claims last Tuesday during an appearance on The Joe Rogan Experience podcast.
When asked by Rogan how many biological entities he was talking about, Mr. Grusch said there was “a variety, and we have a … certain number of different things.”
“But the total numbers of what’s interacting with us on Earth, I mean no one knows,” he said.
“I talk to people who are familiar with biological analysis and all that. So we have an idea, not a complete picture, because it’s like when you look at it, it’s like, well, I don’t understand the physiology at all, it’s like what, it’s very different.
Although he admitted that he had seen no firsthand evidence of the alleged alien craft or bodies, Mr. Grusch said he had spoken at length with dozens of senior intelligence and military officials who reportedly reported to him.
Mr. Grusch testified that he “absolutely” believes the Government is in possession of UAPs and the remains of their non-human operators.
He claims the government is in possession of “double-digit” numbers of downed vessels, but cannot reveal the exact number.
Mr Grusch told Rogan that the number of bodies collected was “also up there, just like the collection”.
When asked where they came from, he said, “No one I spoke to had a specific origin for me. We may know that, but I don’t know anything about it.”
Mr Grusch said government officials “used the term extraterrestrial” but that this was only “a possible origin”.
When asked by Rogan if there were any “interactions” with these creatures, Mr. Grusch said that interactions were “a sensitive topic that my interviewed subjects did not want to discuss.”
“There was a conversation about water coolers with some of the people I talked to on the program,” he said.
“They say, ‘Hey, buddy, guess what I heard at some weird meeting.’ The problem with that is that it’s secondary information… The people who were physically there, who were on the program, who did that, I took to the Inspector General. There was talk of that kind of thing over a water cooler. But I don’t even want to go into it because… there are some details that were provided to me, but it’s secondary and I don’t know if that’s the phone game and I don’t know if it was hyperbolized somehow during the break room, so to speak.”
“There were several very experienced people who had difficulty talking to me about things like that. As crazy as it sounds, that was a real talking point, even though it sounds like something out of Star Trek: First Contact. Once you realize that the phenomenon is real, you also realize that we have recovered artifacts and biological substances, or dead pilots if you will, even though it’s creepy to even think about that in your worldview… that’s something that the president and his Cabinet must reveal… in a controlled manner.”
He also strongly hinted that he had spoken to at least one US president about the phenomenon, which he said had been going on for “thousands of years.”
‘And I know that with 100 percent certainty, while as an intelligence officer you never say 100 percent. But everything pointed to it, based on the people I talked to that I liked [former Nevada Senator] Harry Reid, and I’m using him as an example, but I’ve talked to the highest of the high people you could talk to, if you know what I mean.
He added: “So unless they’re all lying and covering up something else – which at this point I don’t even know what it would be – because the phenomenon is real, it’s been going on for thousands of years. people have seen strange things, and not everyone is hallucinating en masse.”
“Are we alone? The answer is we are not alone,” Grusch said.
